"D" Asks: Do we condone everything Israel does? This has always been a bit of a quandry for me.
My Dear D, Let me help you. The answer is absolutely not! "We", whether Bible Students or any honest and fair minded individual, cannot condone Israel’s actions when they:
On and on the list could go, D! I hope this helps you gain some perspective, as these thoughts are based on the facts on the ground, gleaned outside the mainstream left wing Jew-hating media.
While i fully believe that Israel belongs to the Jewish people, I don;t think they have always been fair and just to the Palestinian people.
I believe I can assist you here also. There ARE no "Palestinian" people. There are Arabs who moved to Israel because Jews had made the land prosperous. Then, in 1948 when Israel declared statehood, SEVEN ARAB ARMIES attacked the Jews from all sides, attempting to finish what Hitler began - the total elimination of the Jewish people.
The Arab governments told the Arabs living within Israel to leave for a time, and that they would be able to return after the Jews were dead and take what they wanted.
But Israel won the war! And in spite of their great efforts at humanitarian aid, the surrounding Arab nations have always intervened, with the help of the U.N., in order to keep the Arab squatters living in what they call "refugee camps." Some of these camps today have mansions - not shown on TV.
Jews uprooted from Gaza meanwhile live in trailers waiting for their own government to help them, but it is too busy helping the Arabs take over the Holy land.
Every surrounding Arab nation has strict laws against Jews even living within their borders. They have no Synagogues in those countries. Israel meanwhile is the only country in the Middle East where there is freedom of religion. Arabs are even elected to the Israeli Knesset and hold seats in government. That is not possible for a Jew living in Egypt or Syria or Jordan or Saudi Arabia. And no mention is ever made of the more than half million JEWISH REFUGEES created when the Arabs attacked Israel.
The "Palestinian people", wrongly so-called, are routinely polled in the media. 85% of them favor the continued murder of Jews, just like the machine gun assault on the Jewish Yeshiva some days ago. The rest of them don’t favor terrorism simply for political reasons, preferring to wait until the opportune time for another all-out war of extermination.
Even now, Abu Mazen, Palestinian Authority leader, is planning for 3 million Arabs to flood the borders of Israel on May 14, the anniversary of Israel’s independence. This is the man who controls the media where they are teaching their kids even now that Jews drink blood and burn children alive.
In the Holocaust, over 1.5 million Jewish children were gassed, starved, worked to death, shot, bayoneted, and burned alive. In the interest of not seeing this happen again, some of the more patriotic Jews have taken measures to protect themselves. The leftist, Jew-hating socialists and liberal media driven ideologues - all outright enemies of Israel - would like to see the Jews remove these safe-guarding measures, such as the security barrier and the checkpoints, that help keep Jewish families from being shot or blown to bits. Thankfully they do not go so far, as "we" certainly could not condone such a policy. Could we?
Also, I am nto convinced what they did in Lebanon was competely just.
You are correct. After the Hezbollah rockets began raining down on peaceful Israelis, the government did nothing. Then as the un-ending barrage continued and Jews began to die as a result, the Olmert government finally lifted a finger to defend the citizens. It was an unconscionable deraliction of duty.
The worst that happened was when Prime Minister Olmert, after a long delay in failing to listen to the urgent pleas from his own military leaders, launched a much belated ground offensive into Lebanon - then, just as the Israeli army was about to implement it’s plan, Olmert ordered a pull back aborting the mission, and pre-empted their own success. Many Israeli soldiers died as a result of Olmert’s foolish politically based decision and total incompetence.
So yes, you are correct. Israel made mistakes in Lebanon. And it was a great injustice to the Israeli people who were first attacked by Hezbollah.
Many innocent people have been killed by the Israeli army.
You may not realize this, but every single day, rockets are launched onto the heads of innocent Israeli civilians by cowardly terrorists who BRAG about their use of human shields, hiding behind their own women and children to attack Israel.
Perhaps this is what you refer to. However there are also many cowardly anti-Semitic media reports that are complete fabrications, often created by Arab journalists to cover for terrorist "work accidents". Arabs have a full time job: The incitement of their own people and others to kill Jews. It is too bad if anyone is fooled by their blatant manipulation of the media and distorting of the facts.
Bottom line: If the Arab terrorists would stop their murderous attacks, there would be peace tomorrow. Can you honestly think that if Israel were to stop defending it’s citizens, that the Arabs would cease all hostility toward Jews?
Do we condone everything Israel does? Or are they doing what they have to do to survive? What should I think about this?
I hope to have offered you some perspective. I truly hope you will think about it and adjust your view about 180 degrees.
Yours in Truth,
OCTAMAN
- Allow their own citizens to be endlessly barraged by rockets and missiles without defending them at all
- Give fertile and productive Jewish land to their enemies so that the land can be used to launch rockets at their unprotected citizenry
- Enter into negotiations with an entity that instructs their children through the use of school books and cartoon characters that they must kill Jews.
- Brutally uproot Jewish families by force of arms from land that belongs to them in order to appease an enemy sworn to their annihilation.
- Offer to give their own capital city of Jerusalem, the very heart of the earth, to a gang of thugs with a murderous Anti-Semitic ideology.
- Coddle the existence of enemies like Yasser Arafat and Marwan Barghouti, who plan and executed the murder of thousands of Jews.
- Make plans to rip thousands of Jews from their God-given homeland of Judea and Samaria to give it to Arabs to launch a final assault on them.
- Negotiate "peace" with sworn terrorists like Holocaust denier Abu Mazen (Abbas) who planned the murder of the Israeli Olympic team in 1972.
- Arrest Jewish Israeli’s for peacefully protesting and holding them for days and weeks in prison, later to admit there was no cause for arrest.
- Squelch the free speech rights of it’s citizens, yanking the only conservative radio station’s broadcasting license.
- Restrain their military from defending their people for the sake of good relations with their western allies who really mean to destroy Israel.
On and on the list could go, D! I hope this helps you gain some perspective, as these thoughts are based on the facts on the ground, gleaned outside the mainstream left wing Jew-hating media.
While i fully believe that Israel belongs to the Jewish people, I don;t think they have always been fair and just to the Palestinian people.
I believe I can assist you here also. There ARE no "Palestinian" people. There are Arabs who moved to Israel because Jews had made the land prosperous. Then, in 1948 when Israel declared statehood, SEVEN ARAB ARMIES attacked the Jews from all sides, attempting to finish what Hitler began - the total elimination of the Jewish people.
The Arab governments told the Arabs living within Israel to leave for a time, and that they would be able to return after the Jews were dead and take what they wanted.
But Israel won the war! And in spite of their great efforts at humanitarian aid, the surrounding Arab nations have always intervened, with the help of the U.N., in order to keep the Arab squatters living in what they call "refugee camps." Some of these camps today have mansions - not shown on TV.
Jews uprooted from Gaza meanwhile live in trailers waiting for their own government to help them, but it is too busy helping the Arabs take over the Holy land.
Every surrounding Arab nation has strict laws against Jews even living within their borders. They have no Synagogues in those countries. Israel meanwhile is the only country in the Middle East where there is freedom of religion. Arabs are even elected to the Israeli Knesset and hold seats in government. That is not possible for a Jew living in Egypt or Syria or Jordan or Saudi Arabia. And no mention is ever made of the more than half million JEWISH REFUGEES created when the Arabs attacked Israel.
The "Palestinian people", wrongly so-called, are routinely polled in the media. 85% of them favor the continued murder of Jews, just like the machine gun assault on the Jewish Yeshiva some days ago. The rest of them don’t favor terrorism simply for political reasons, preferring to wait until the opportune time for another all-out war of extermination.
Even now, Abu Mazen, Palestinian Authority leader, is planning for 3 million Arabs to flood the borders of Israel on May 14, the anniversary of Israel’s independence. This is the man who controls the media where they are teaching their kids even now that Jews drink blood and burn children alive.
In the Holocaust, over 1.5 million Jewish children were gassed, starved, worked to death, shot, bayoneted, and burned alive. In the interest of not seeing this happen again, some of the more patriotic Jews have taken measures to protect themselves. The leftist, Jew-hating socialists and liberal media driven ideologues - all outright enemies of Israel - would like to see the Jews remove these safe-guarding measures, such as the security barrier and the checkpoints, that help keep Jewish families from being shot or blown to bits. Thankfully they do not go so far, as "we" certainly could not condone such a policy. Could we?
Also, I am nto convinced what they did in Lebanon was competely just.
You are correct. After the Hezbollah rockets began raining down on peaceful Israelis, the government did nothing. Then as the un-ending barrage continued and Jews began to die as a result, the Olmert government finally lifted a finger to defend the citizens. It was an unconscionable deraliction of duty.
The worst that happened was when Prime Minister Olmert, after a long delay in failing to listen to the urgent pleas from his own military leaders, launched a much belated ground offensive into Lebanon - then, just as the Israeli army was about to implement it’s plan, Olmert ordered a pull back aborting the mission, and pre-empted their own success. Many Israeli soldiers died as a result of Olmert’s foolish politically based decision and total incompetence.
So yes, you are correct. Israel made mistakes in Lebanon. And it was a great injustice to the Israeli people who were first attacked by Hezbollah.
Many innocent people have been killed by the Israeli army.
You may not realize this, but every single day, rockets are launched onto the heads of innocent Israeli civilians by cowardly terrorists who BRAG about their use of human shields, hiding behind their own women and children to attack Israel.
Perhaps this is what you refer to. However there are also many cowardly anti-Semitic media reports that are complete fabrications, often created by Arab journalists to cover for terrorist "work accidents". Arabs have a full time job: The incitement of their own people and others to kill Jews. It is too bad if anyone is fooled by their blatant manipulation of the media and distorting of the facts.
Bottom line: If the Arab terrorists would stop their murderous attacks, there would be peace tomorrow. Can you honestly think that if Israel were to stop defending it’s citizens, that the Arabs would cease all hostility toward Jews?
Do we condone everything Israel does? Or are they doing what they have to do to survive? What should I think about this?
I hope to have offered you some perspective. I truly hope you will think about it and adjust your view about 180 degrees.
Yours in Truth,
OCTAMAN
Originally published March 24 2008
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