Monday, May 07, 2018

Do We Condone Everything Israel Does? NO! Read My LIST!


"D" Asks: Do we condone everything Israel does? This has always been a bit of a quandry for me. 

My Dear D,  Let me help you. The answer is absolutely not! "We", whether Bible Students or any honest and fair minded individual, cannot condone Israel’s actions when they:
  • Allow their own citizens to be endlessly barraged by rockets and missiles without defending them at all
  • Give fertile and productive Jewish land to their enemies so that the land can be used to launch rockets at their unprotected citizenry
  • Enter into negotiations with an entity that instructs their children through the use of school books and cartoon characters that they must kill Jews.
  • Brutally uproot Jewish families by force of arms from land that belongs to them in order to appease an enemy sworn to their annihilation.
  • Offer to give their own capital city of Jerusalem, the very heart of the earth, to a gang of thugs with a murderous Anti-Semitic ideology.
  • Coddle the existence of enemies like Yasser Arafat and Marwan Barghouti, who plan and executed the murder of thousands of Jews.
  • Make plans to rip thousands of Jews from their God-given homeland of Judea and Samaria to give it to Arabs to launch a final assault on them.
  • Negotiate "peace" with sworn terrorists like Holocaust denier Abu Mazen (Abbas) who planned the murder of the Israeli Olympic team in 1972.
  • Arrest Jewish Israeli’s for peacefully protesting and holding them for days and weeks in prison, later to admit there was no cause for arrest.
  • Squelch the free speech rights of it’s citizens, yanking the only conservative radio station’s broadcasting license.
  • Restrain their military from defending their people for the sake of good relations with their western allies who really mean to destroy Israel.

On and on the list could go, D! I hope this helps you gain some perspective, as these thoughts are based on the facts on the ground, gleaned outside the mainstream left wing Jew-hating media.

While i fully believe that Israel belongs to the Jewish people, I don;t think they have always been fair and just to the Palestinian people.

I believe I can assist you here also. There ARE no "Palestinian" people. There are Arabs who moved to Israel because Jews had made the land prosperous. Then, in 1948 when Israel declared statehood, SEVEN ARAB ARMIES attacked the Jews from all sides, attempting to finish what Hitler began - the total elimination of the Jewish people.

The Arab governments told the Arabs living within Israel to leave for a time, and that they would be able to return after the Jews were dead and take what they wanted.
But Israel won the war! And in spite of their great efforts at humanitarian aid, the surrounding Arab nations have always intervened, with the help of the U.N., in order to keep the Arab squatters living in what they call "refugee camps." Some of these camps today have mansions - not shown on TV.
Jews uprooted from Gaza meanwhile live in trailers waiting for their own government to help them, but it is too busy helping the Arabs take over the Holy land.

Every surrounding Arab nation has strict laws against Jews even living within their borders. They have no Synagogues in those countries. Israel meanwhile is the only country in the Middle East where there is freedom of religion. Arabs are even elected to the Israeli Knesset and hold seats in government. That is not possible for a Jew living in Egypt or Syria or Jordan or Saudi Arabia. And no mention is ever made of the more than half million JEWISH REFUGEES created when the Arabs attacked Israel.

The "Palestinian people", wrongly so-called, are routinely polled in the media. 85% of them favor the continued murder of Jews, just like the machine gun assault on the Jewish Yeshiva some days ago. The rest of them don’t favor terrorism simply for political reasons, preferring to wait until the opportune time for another all-out war of extermination.

Even now, Abu Mazen, Palestinian Authority leader, is planning for 3 million Arabs to flood the borders of Israel on May 14, the anniversary of Israel’s independence. This is the man who controls the media where they are teaching their kids even now that Jews drink blood and burn children alive.

In the Holocaust, over 1.5 million Jewish children were gassed, starved, worked to death, shot, bayoneted, and burned alive. In the interest of not seeing this happen again, some of the more patriotic Jews have taken measures to protect themselves. The leftist, Jew-hating socialists and liberal media driven ideologues - all outright enemies of Israel - would like to see the Jews remove these safe-guarding measures, such as the security barrier and the checkpoints, that help keep Jewish families from being shot or blown to bits. Thankfully they do not go so far, as "we" certainly could not condone such a policy. Could we?

Also, I am nto convinced what they did in Lebanon was competely just.

You are correct. After the Hezbollah rockets began raining down on peaceful Israelis, the government did nothing. Then as the un-ending barrage continued and Jews began to die as a result, the Olmert government finally lifted a finger to defend the citizens. It was an unconscionable deraliction of duty.

The worst that happened was when Prime Minister Olmert, after a long delay in failing to listen to the urgent pleas from his own military leaders, launched a much belated ground offensive into Lebanon - then, just as the Israeli army was about to implement it’s plan, Olmert ordered a pull back aborting the mission, and pre-empted their own success. Many Israeli soldiers died as a result of Olmert’s foolish politically based decision and total incompetence.

So yes, you are correct. Israel made mistakes in Lebanon. And it was a great injustice to the Israeli people who were first attacked by Hezbollah.

Many innocent people have been killed by the Israeli army.
You may not realize this, but every single day, rockets are launched onto the heads of innocent Israeli civilians by cowardly terrorists who BRAG about their use of human shields, hiding behind their own women and children to attack Israel.


Perhaps this is what you refer to. However there are also many cowardly anti-Semitic media reports that are complete fabrications, often created by Arab journalists to cover for terrorist "work accidents". Arabs have a full time job: The incitement of their own people and others to kill Jews. It is too bad if anyone is fooled by their blatant manipulation of the media and distorting of the facts.
Bottom line: If the Arab terrorists would stop their murderous attacks, there would be peace tomorrow. Can you honestly think that if Israel were to stop defending it’s citizens, that the Arabs would cease all hostility toward Jews?

Do we condone everything Israel does? Or are they doing what they have to do to survive? What should I think about this?

I hope to have offered you some perspective. I truly hope you will think about it and adjust your view about 180 degrees.

Yours in Truth,

OCTAMAN

Originally published March 24 2008

Friday, May 04, 2018

Ezekiel 38 In Hindsight Explained Verse by Verse

Dear Friend,

Peace in the name of our Redeemer Yeshua the Messiah.

Below is a table I created in 2008 as an Ezekiel 38 study.  Keep in mind, as in my previous posting on this chapter, that I am no longer convinced Gog is Russia.  I've concluded that it's more of a worldwide globalist system of nearly all nations united against Israel.  Rather than a literal invasion of Israel, I submit that it has a mainly political antitype.

Since these comments were written I've studied more by Bro's. Russell and Johnson, and therefore my updated thoughts will be forthcoming on this, Lord willing.  Nevertheless, though some comments may be disregarded, much of the following is still valid and may be of interest to others.  It is with this hope that I post my thoughts, to the edification of all.  Feel free to share and comment.  Thank you.

Yours in Truth,

Regan Balman


Eze 38:1   The word of the LORD came to me:Ezekiel
LORD=Yahweh [Rotherham]



Eze 38:2   "Son of man, set your face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against himThis entire commentary is based on the common supposition that Russia is Gog.

[RcB: For those reading since 2018, insert Globalist Elite instead of simply Russia.  However Russia still acts as an adversary to Israel at this time. 5/4/18]

Meshech and Tubal=Moscow and Tiblisi (Jamieson, Fausett & Brown)

Today's events [8/8/08] show Moscow heading toward possible full control of Tiblisi, in their aggressive moves against Georgia.  At very least they have exerted military control over southern Ossetia, away from Georgia, which may follow.



Eze 38:3   and say, Thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal;"Finally Gog as the capitol of the eastern bloc, will rule over Great Russia, Armenia (Meshech) and Tubal (Caucasian Georgia, with its capitol Tbilisi), and will assemble alliances with Iran (Persia), Black Africa (Cush, not just Ethiopia), and North Africa (Phut: Libya to Mauritania), plus North Europe (Gomer, at the Black Sea and its northern tributaries, including Germans {Ashkenaz} and Slavs {Riphath} from Gen. 10:3) and the Turkic tribes (Togarmah). The pipeline for the western bloc will continue to be Israel—a prize too tempting for a resurgent Gog to resist (38:1-12)."  ["Ezekiel in Brief"  http://www.heraldmag.org/literature/proph_6.htm] 

[RcB NOTE 5/4/18:  This writer is fond of Bro. Parkinson yet does not endorse his view nor do I reject it.  It was a useful study at the time, however the bloodline argument has been refined since.  See previous posting.]



Eze 38:4  and I will turn you about, and put hooks into your jaws, and I will bring you forth, and all your army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed in full armor, a great company, all of them with buckler and             shield, wielding swords;The Soviet military regime has a long history of always owning one of the largest standing armies and one of the largest standing navies, even prior to the Revolution.  Ever since they have celebrated militarism above all else, televised to the world with yearly dazzling displays before the politburo in stark red.  Horses and horsemen are philosophies (doctrines) and their promoters, who have trumpeted Anti-Semitism, the teaching that supports their military actions.



Eze 38:5   Persia, Cush, and Put are with them, all of them with shield and helmet;Persia=Iran, Cush=Ethiopia and North Africa, (left to right on the map:  Mauritania, Morocco, Algeria, Libya, Egypt?) and Put=Libya - also Lebanon and Jordan (Ammon, Moab and Edom are the three parts of modern Jordan)



Eze 38:6   Gomer and all his hordes; Beth-togar'mah from the uttermost parts of the north with all his hordes--many peoples are with you.Gomer=Black Sea area (Chechen Caucasus Mount Torgarmah = Turkey
From my previous notes on Ezekiel 38... Gomer = N. Europe, Germans and Slavs.  Togarmah=Turkestan



Eze 38:7   "Be ready and keep ready, you and all the hosts that are assembled about you, and be a guard for them.Russia was constantly ready for war all the time, and was the shield and supporter of the Arab nations.



Eze 38:8  After many days you will be mustered; in the latter years you will go against the land that is restored from war, the land where people were gathered from many nations upon the mountains of Israel, which had been             a continual waste; its people were brought out from the nations and now dwell securely, all of them.

"After many days" [nations under communist umbrella]
"thou shalt be visited" [KJV] [Recompense: 1989?]
"in the latter years" = possibly better translation:  "latter years OF the last days"

"Restored from war" = Could it not refer to Israel after 1945?  They were not a state yet at that time, but after the  world war the nation of Israel was restored by very reason of the war itself.  The U.N. helped create the state of Israel, and in May of 1948 they had been restored to a nation.  The land of Israel itself was the target of Adolph Hitler and his Muslim cohorts during the war, and so after the important battles of World War II that stemmed the tide of Rommel's charge through Africa toward the Holy Land, it could be said that the land itself was "restored from war."  The nation of Israel was brought into being - again.  It was because of the war.

"Brought" Strong's 7725 "Shuwb" [Shoab] meaning "to turn back, hence, away - to retreat, come again, consider, withdraw - see Strong's 935 "bow" [...bring against]

See Ezekiel 39:27 reference to the Jews "brought back" from their enemies lands]
See Jer. 27:16 "brought again from Babylon"



Eze 38:9  You will advance, coming on like a storm, you will be like a cloud covering the land you and all your hordes, and many peoples with you.Many people see this as happening all at once at the end of the world.  Perhaps.  It was a longstanding strategy of Saddam Hussein of Iraq to create a "million man army" that would cover Israel like a cloud all at once.  This is symbolic but also perhaps quite literal, however in a different way than most commentators view it..

A storm cloud may take weeks to muster, which could translate to years of symbolic political storm cloud gathering.  A storm cloud may sit and hover, as Israel's enemies always have, it may rain, pour, or just pass....

Could it not be that this is referring to the "demographics" issue that has taken center stage after many decades of Arab influx into the Holy Land?  This verse describes a growing danger, just like a slowly advancing weather storm.  The threat of Arabs one day outnumbering Jews within Israel has guided Israeli policy all along as             the issue of supreme importance in the Arab-Israel conflict.  The Arabs demand their "Right of Return" - the right to literally flood the land with alleged refugees from their own failed attempt at conquest. 



Eze 38:10   "Thus says the Lord GOD: On that day thoughts will come into your mind, and you will devise an evil schemeAnti-Semitism is the evil thought.  It may turn out that the Russian KGB, who recently were found to have issued an order to assassinate the Pope, is also responsible for the very plan that the Arabs have implemented against Israel; to use a fictitious "Palestinian" people to create a wedge in order to destroy Israel from the inside out.

Other evil thoughts that enter the minds of nations may have to do with chemical, nuclear and biological weapons.



Eze 38:11  and say, 'I will go up against the land of unwalled villages; I will fall upon the quiet people who dwell securely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having no bars or gates';"Unwalled villages" = Israel prior to statehood,  1947

Their plan was always the same, to attack Israel, kill the inhabitants all at once, and take their property and their land.  They tried it in 1948, they tried again in 1956, again in 1967 and again in 1973.  So there is no missing this fact for anyone who's lived through the last half of the 20th century, this was their plan all along, and it has not changed, but for the nuclear element.



Eze 38:12  to seize spoil and carry off plunder; to assail the waste places which are now inhabited, and the people who were gathered from the nations, who have gotten cattle and goods, who dwell at the center of the earth.to seize spoil and carry off plunder=                   to take the material wealth created by Jews

to assail the waste places which are now inhabited, = Arabs routinely destroy Jewish property, holy sites, etc. 


and the people who were gathered from the nations, who have gotten cattle and goods are the target of this Grand Larceny  - the Jews themselves, and Jerusalem.  The goal is to kill the Jews, and take their land and possessions.

 
who dwell at the center of the earth.= the heart of the earth - Jerusalem. 

Recent events [2008] show that the Olmert led government in Israel is negotiating the dividing of Jerusalem itself - long considered by many Bible students as THE SIGN of the immediacy of the final "last days"conflagration.

Anti-Semites know the Bible story. Arabs and atheists alike are aware of the concept that "The Law shall go forth from Zion, and the Word of                 the Lord from Jerusalem".  This they hope to pre-empt at any price.  There are many examples of the fulfillment of this passage, none more blatant than May 1948, when seven Arab armies attacked to prevent Israel from becoming a state. 

The Jews lived there in numbers, having gathered from the nations gradually since Herzl in the late 1800's, adding to the numbers of those who already dwelled there.



Eze 38:13  Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish             and all its villages will say to you, 'Have you come to seize spoil? Have you assembled your hosts to carry off plunder, to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to seize great spoil?'

The NATO nations, the Capitalist Alliance, were always the direct opposer of all Soviet policies in the Middle East.  These policies shaped the very nature of the entire cold war.  Arab armies have always been supplied by Russia and still are today, while Israel is the traditional ally of the West.  In the verse, the words in quotes represent the war of words that characterized the cold war, where hardly a shot was fired in anger, but both sides constantly accused each other of bad motives and false pretenses.  This is diplomatic language.

Tarshish= Celts in Westernmost Europe including Celitberians (sp?), Britons, Welsh, Irish, Scots, Belgians, Galicia (southern Poland), Galatia (central Turkey)
Sheba, Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish can mean Yemen, Kuwait, United Arab Emirates - nations now aligned with NATO and under American influence.



Eze 38:14  "Therefore, son of man, prophesy, and say to Gog, Thus says the Lord GOD: On that day when my people Israel are dwelling securely, you will bestir yourselfMany think Israel has never yet experienced "dwelling securely" and therefore they look for this to happen after a future war.  Could it not be that "dwelling safely" happened at the time of the creation of Israeli statehood?

From the time of the Roman destruction in 69 AD they had not had any opportunity for "dwelling safely", not while living in the mostly anti-Semitic nations to which they were dispersed.  Now that the Holocaust had ended, they were returning to their own land and             establishing a state, finally standing on their own two feet as a nation.  May 1948.

This is a sight that caused the communistic/atheistic forces to unite with Islamic opposition to Israel, forming an unholy alliance that has been at Israel's throat for decades without a moment of  peace.  Does this defeat the premise of "dwelling safely"?  Not when you consider that Israel's nuclear weapons program has kept their Arab neighbors and their Russian handlers at bay, thus "dwelling securely" indeed for many years now.



Eze 38:15  and come from your place out of the uttermost parts of the north, you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great host, a mighty army;From up north (where it should be none of their business,) here the Russians, diplomatically and politically as well as militarily and physically,  have literally kept Israel surrounded by enemies and made sure those enemies were well "armed to the teeth" for going on 7 decades now.  Even last year, [2006], Russian leadership has endorsed Syria, Iran and the Hamas representatives of the "Palestinians" - the wedge to destroy Israel.

Horses are doctrines or teachings, and here the teachings inspire immigration to Israel.  At the heart of the Arab plan to destroy Israel is the teaching of the "Right of Return" -  Arabs returning to lands lost in the 1948 attack on Israel.  Leftists and Socialists inside both Israel and in America only add to this army of those against Israel.



Eze 38:16  you will come up against my people Israel, like a cloud covering the land. In the latter days I will bring you against my land, that the nations may know me, when through you, O Gog, I vindicate my holiness before their eyes.These enemies are "against" Israel in an adversarial sense, not necessarily locational.  Since they are like a cloud covering the land, it appears that the enemies are actually found inside of Israel, or want to be inside Israel, and that is exactly the case as it stands today, even as Arabs vote with Knesset seats inside Israel's own government             which institutes policies that are anti-Jewish -  uprooting Jews from Jewish land in appeasement of their enemies.

The last line of this verse is ongoing, and in the end the world will generally catch onto the fact that God exists.  They will see this through the visible and somewhat gradual defeat of this Russian/Arab alliance. There is nothing to prove that event must happen in mere moments or days.  I submit that is has been ongoing for the last 7 decades and is nearly complete. Upon completion, the world will see at last for instance that "Allah" is not "greater" than Yahweh, nor is atheism, communism, socialism, or any other doctrine that opposes God's Zionism of any effect.

To coin a word that would summarize not only this entire chapter, but also the entire period of nearly 70 years  I would call it "Anti-Zionism."  It is near it's zenith now, and I believe it to be in it's death throes.  Whether or not it will take more than monetary bankruptcy to completely defeat Russia remains to be seen, but seems likely.



Eze 38:17  "Thus says the Lord GOD: Are you he of whom I spoke in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel, who in those days prophesied for years that I would bring you against them?Here the Bible student is directed to search the Scriptures, specifically the writings of the prophets, and Obadiah's story regarding "the Edomites" is parenthetical to the narrative of Ezekiel 38.



Eze 38:18   But on that day, when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, says the Lord GOD, my wrath will be roused.I like the translation that says "will come up in my nostrils".*  God's spirit is opposed to Anti-Semitism.  The people who are opposed to Anti-Semitism are of God's spirit, while those who are Anti-Zionists oppose God's spirit, and often display the traits of the spirit of Satan.

[*RcB 5/4/18 NOTE:  How about the social conditions of earth becoming putrid since the little flock left the scene?]




Eze 38:19   For in my jealousy and in my blazing wrath I declare, On that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;After so many centuries of "Allah is greater", I would think that jealousy is just on the part of the Almighty Yahweh.  The "fire" is not necessarily literal, but refers to the level of intensity of emotion our Creator must have in the protection of "the pupil of his eye", the Jewish nation.  The "shaking" is not literal either, though some expect an actual earthquake.  Every day in Israel there are political upheavals and shakings among the various political and religious classes in Israel, among both Jewish and Arab populations.  The point is that literal blazing and shaking, though they may be occurring, are not required to fulfill these events.



Eze 38:20  the fish of the sea, and the birds of the air, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep on the ground, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall quake at my presence,             and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the cliffs shall fall, and every wall shall tumble to the ground.Some of the group categories are listed here.  The details will be for another time.  The men are the leaders of governments.  They "quake" at calamities near and imagined every day as this characterizes our day.  The "presence" is the parousia of the returned Messiah, from 1874 to today.  The mountains are governments, especially that oppose Israel, such as Iraq, Iran and Syria.  The cliffs are the high crags of society people hold onto such as banks and the various public trusts.  The walls are states that relied on the banks.  Perhaps.  This is just my view - but seems to be born out in recent days [2008] by the failure of several banks and government bailouts of public trusts.



Eze 38:21   I will summon every kind of             terror against Gog, says the Lord GOD; every man's sword will be against his brother.

Post 1914, Russia has suffered under the terror of  Revolution, World War, a second World War, mass starvation and oppression, plus the fear of nuclear annihilation from the West.  In 1989 they collapsed largely from within.   Today they experience terrorism from Chechen guerrillas.  (See "Beslan")  

Beslan is in North Ossetia.  Today, Russia has attacked Georgian forces in South Ossetia.  Truly they are beset by terror as those territories that were once unified under the Soviet flag are now at war with one another.



Eze 38:22  With pestilence and bloodshed I will enter into judgment with him; and I will rain upon him and his hordes and the many peoples that are with him, torrential rains and hailstones, fire and brimstone.In contrast with the freedom loving Western nations, the Eastern bloc has been mired in miserable circumstances as punishment for their stance regarding Israel.  They have traditionally suffered sickness and death from war at a much higher rate than western nations.  Pestilence and war have not convinced them of the error of their ways, therefore comes the torrential rains - the flow of information - that             will destroy their false teachings ("horses"), while hailstones represent hard truths that will destroy the crops sown by the evil seeds of anti-Semitism.  Fire and brimstone are symbolic of complete destruction, as the system of error is overthrown over a period of many years time.

The literalness of this passage remains to be assessed.  However Israel has over 1,000 military advisers in Georgia prior to the war in S. Ossetia.  Georgian forces were being trained in Israeli military weapons and tactics, as Israel has oil interests there -  in the pipeline to the sea where they have planned shipping routes.  They offered Russia a stake in the enterprise and were rejected.  Now it is thought that Moscow may seek to punish Israel for their hand in the affairs of Georgia and South Ossetia.  See http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1358




Eze 38:23  So I will show my greatness and my holiness and make myself known in             the eyes of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.When all is said and done people will see for themselves through the events of history the utter bankruptcy of the vain philosophies of Atheism, Communism, Socialism, Mohammedanism, all rooted in the poisonous idea of Anti-Semitism.  When the smoke finally clears, be it literal or symbolic, the masses of people will finally become aware of the presence of the Messiah, as He will, as Yahweh's vicegerent, begin noticeably overruling earth's affairs.


Tuesday, May 01, 2018

Is Ezekiel 38 a future scenario? Or is it already past?

The following info is from my notes on a talk I gave.  Someone asked me to discuss:

"What's going on in Israel?"

Why would nuclear weapons in the hands of the Iranian Ayatolla be of concern to Israel? 


Nothing interests us more as Bible students  than The Kingdom of God on earth.  So I will talk more specifically regarding Israel in prophecy, and how that relates to the kingdom of God being manifest on earth, and this will be through the prism of current events.

Anyone who understands even a little history knows about the hatred toward the Jewish people shown by the nations during the Holocaust.  Anyone with the least amount of awareness of the reason for the Jewish state knows about the slogan "Never Again" and what that means.  Anyone with access to news reports can tell that there is an ongoing attempt to destroy  the state of Israel and the Jews within it.

ANYONE WITH ACCESS TO A BIBLE should know a lot already regarding the Holy Land and the people of the book.
  I read recently that The Bible is still the best selling, most popular book in the world.  If as many people who owned a Bible actually read one, they would know the following Scriptures regarding Israel through the eyes of prophecy.

Isaiah 43:5-6,21 - "Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bring your children from the east and gather you from the west. I will say to the north, `Give  them up!' and to the south, `Do not hold them back.' Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth..."


Ezekiel 20:34 - "I will bring you from the nations and gather you from the countries where you have been scattered -- with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm and with outpoured wrath."

There was no greater wrath ever displayed on earth than that of the Holocaust.  ALL know, from Athiest to Islamist, Buddhist to Hinduist understand common knowledge, for ALL can see that there is a struggle for the land of Israel, or what the world likes to call "Palestine". 

Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble;

 but he shall be saved out of it.

As we race toward the 70th Anniversary of May 14, 1948 we recall What Jesus said in Matthew 24:

32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.


If a "generation" is 70 years, and it may be, then we are two weeks away (at this writing) from the end of that span in which "all these things"  would be fulfilled.  We leave for later discussion as to what all those things entail, however...

What About Ezekiel 38?

Bible Students expect this is a future scenario.  It may be past.

These are Pastor Russell's comments on Ezek 38:1,2.  Click the links to read more...

1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

The day of the LORD – Already begun. R286:5[R286:25] 

When the first return of Israelites to Palestine will have taken place. R286:3

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

Gather all nations – Gog and Magog, the hosts of merciless plunderers of regathered Israel. D554,D555


...a bit of ackground on the Temple Mount...

When Israel was declared a state on May of 1948, 7 arab armies attacked. Israel survived, but lost half of the city of Jerusalem to the arabs.  This included the sacred Temple Mount, holy to both Jews and Arabs, but more so to Jews.
In June of 1967, at the climax of the Six Day War, Israel’s paratroops broke through the enemy to take Jerusalem back from the arabs, which they had lost in 1948, 19 years earlier.  The commander emotionally announced the words that still resonate to this day, "The Temple Mount is in our hands."

 Shortly thereafter, Defense Minister Moshe Dayan, fearing the potential Islamic and international outcry, shamefully robbed Israel of at least part of its great victory, by handing over the keys of the holiest place in Judaism to the Muslims.
For those who are unaware, this holy site is the plateau on which the two Temples of Israel had stood for hundreds of years. Below it, at its western retaining wall, Jews had shed bitter tears for centuries. For that reason, it was known to many as the Wailing Wall. Since that miraculous week in 1967, when all of eastern Jerusalem fell back into Israel’s hands, it is known to all as the Western Wall. 

Despite the fact that the Western Wall has become somewhat of a shrine for the Jewish people and all visitors from around the world, the Temple Mount above it has remained the ultimate symbol of Israel’s former unified sovereign kingdom, with its capital in Jerusalem.

RE: Zechariah 14 [click for study]

Bible Students expect yet another battle for Jerusalem where this passage comes finally comes true.
My suggestion is that this passage has seen it's fulfillment in the events of the last 70 years.  Let's look again:

1Behold, a day of Jehovah cometh, when thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

compare:

Ezek 38: 11 and thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell securely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates;12 to take the
 spoil and to take the prey; to turn thy hand against the waste places that are now inhabited, and against the people that are gathered out of the nations, that have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the middle of the earth.

2For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

RcB:  1948:  the city was "taken", but then half was re-taken by Israel, remaining divided. 
Half was off limits, barbed wire no man's zone between...

"houses rifled" was literal AND figurative.  
"women ravished" was literal AND figurative 
(synagogues destroyed, desecrated)
"residue of the people...not cut off" - Jordanian agreement to allow free access to Holy sites, but didn't abide by it.

from sixdaywar.org

During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, Transjordan’s Arab Legion attempted to capture the entire city of Jerusalem, shelling it and cutting off its Jewish residents from the coastal plain. Western portions of Jerusalem came under Israel’s control only after Israeli forces broke the Arab siege of the city. In the first four weeks of Arab attacks, 200 Jewish civilians were killed and over 1,000 were wounded in Jerusalem. But, defending themselves, Israeli forces managed to capture some suburbs and villages from the Arabs.

The Israeli defenders were not as successful in protecting the Jewish community of eastern Jerusalem. On May 28, 1948, the Jewish Quarter of the Old City fell to the Arab Legion.
 After 10 months of fighting, an armistice agreement was signed on April 3, 1949, dividing Jerusalem along the November 1948 ceasefire lines of Israeli and Transjordanian forces, with several areas of no-man’s land. The armistice line served as a temporary border between what had formerly been two mixed communities. Western Jerusalem became Israel’s capital city, while eastern Jerusalem, including the holy sites, was occupied by Transjordan, which in 1949 became the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan. The city was essentially divided between two armed camps separated by barbed wire, concrete walls, minefields and bunkers.

Upon its capture by the Arab Legion, the Jewish Quarter of the Old City was destroyed and its residents expelled. Fifty-eight synagogues--some hundreds of years old--were destroyed, their contents looted and desecrated. Some Jewish religious sites were turned into chicken coops or animal stalls. The Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives, where Jews had been burying their dead for over 2500 years, was ransacked; graves were desecrated; thousands of tombstones were smashed and used as building material, paving stones or for latrines in Arab Legion army camps. The Intercontinental Hotel was built on top of the cemetery and graves were demolished to make way for a highway to the hotel. The Western Wall became a slum area.


IN MY HUMBLE VIEW this Zechariah 14 prophecy has been fulfilled. Pastor Russell taught us this passage was synonymous with the Ezekiel 38 vision we now discuss.

SO FAR FROM THE SCRIPTURES we know that the Jewish people would be scattered, the land desolate, and then they would be regathered and the land would yield her increase once again.

   King David said it.... Isaiah said it, Ezekiel said it......

Even Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also declared to the people of Europe and the world that the prophecies of Ezekiel 37 have been fulfilled. The Holocaust, he said, represented the "dry bones" and "graves" of the Jewish people, and out of that horror the State of Israel was resurrected, just as the Lord said would happen through the Hebrew Prophet Ezekiel. Rarely has any world leader given a major address on an international stage declaring prophecies from the Bible have come true. But that is exactly what Netanyahu did.

The Israeli news site Yediot Arnhot published an editorial which discussed this, under the premise that, since it is common knowledge that Ezekiel 36 and 37 have taken place already, would it not be safe to assume that both Ezek 38 and 39 will also soon have their fulfillment?

Ezekiel 38 

Is about the struggle over the land of Israel

Bro. Russell says in the 4th volume that we can’t be too sure about the identity of the players. 

After extensive reading I am no longer sure what the identity of these nations are any more.  It was formerly assumed that GOG and MAGOG referred to Russia and their satellites.  This fits the picture to a degree if we see Russia as the arms supplier of the middle eastern enemies of Israel, and if the vision of Ezek 38 doesn't have to happen all in one year, as brother Johnson suggested.  However in the same book he also admits to being incorrect about the fulfillment of certain other prophetic utterances of the Bible.  

Perhaps, Ezek 38 and Zech 14 are indeed synomomous as bro. Russell said, but that they cover a much longer time of fulfillment. IT IS THIS SUPPOSITION THAT I WILL PROCEED FROM, THAT THE EVENTS OF EZEK 38 are not so much future as they are events of the recent past and current events with some still yet future....

EZEK 38:9  .."LIKE A STORM TO COVER THE LAND"

."......as a cloud to cover the land.."

I SUBMIT THAT THIS REFERS NOT TO A FUTURE INVADING ARMY, but it refers to THE "PALESTINIAN RIGHT OF RETURN." - which is the Palestinian Arabs demand that all refugees displaced after the arabs war of annihilation against Israel failed, be allowed to return to their former homes.

"During the 1948 War – a war which began with Palestinian rejection of the UN Partition Plan, and the subsequent invasion of Arab armies into Israel – between 650,000 and 730,000 Palestinian Arabs were expelled or fled from the area that became Israel, and became refugees. At the same time, around 10,000 Jews were forced to leave their homes in Palestine. 

 Today, over 1.25 million Arabs are citizens of Israel.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME after the war in 1948 between 750,000 and 1,000,000 Jews were expelled or fled from Arab countries. Today, fewer than 7,000 Jews remain in Arab countries. It is estimated that Jewish-owned real-estate left behind or confiscated in Arab countries covers a total of about 100,000 square kilometers – more than four times the size of the state of Israel. Additional 200,000 Jews from [non-Arab] Muslim countries left their homes due to increasing insecurity and growing hostility since 1948. Today over 60% of Israeli Jews are the descendants of displaced Jews from Arab countries.

Jewish refugees from Arab countries were absorbed by Israel and became equal citizens. Israel does not demand a “right of return” for Jews into Arab countries, nor does it demand compensation for confiscated Jewish land and property from Arab countries."

THIS IS THE METHOD BY WHICH THE ARABS THINK TO OVERWHELM TINY ISRAEL, WITH AN INFLUX OF ARABS MANDATED BY THE WORLD NATIONS, TAKING OVER THE LAND MAKING IT A MAJORITY ARAB NATION, THUS OBLITERATING THE EXISTENCE OF THE JEWISH STATE.  THIS HAS BEEN THEIR PLAN ALL ALONG SINCE THE FAILURE OF THE HOLOCAUST.  IT HAS BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED.


IS GOG -----------RUSSIA-------------?

Feel free to skip these exhaustive notes for the conclusion!

From one website: "Hesiod, "the father of Greek didactic poetry" identified Magog with the Scythians and southern Russia in the 7th century B.C. As well, Hesiod was a contemporary of Ezekiel (as). The term "Rosh" employed by Ezekial (as) is the etymological root of "Russia."

Herodotus of Harlicarnassus, known as "Father of History" wrote much about the descendants of Magog by their Greek name, the Scythians, in the 5th century B.C. Archaeological discoveries have confirmed Herodotus' reports.  Flavius Josephus records that the Magogians were called "Scythians" by the Greeks. Philo, in the 1st century, identifies Magog with southern Russia.

----------------------------------------------------------------TO BACK THIS CLAIM:::: many Bible Expositors, including Pastor Russell suggest Russia is Gog and Magog:  Today, Russia has relations with Syria, Iran, Hamas and Hezbollah, Israels mortal enemies....

EVEN NOW Russia gives technical, military, and diplomatic aid to Iran

from wiki pedia:    After the mid-50's and throughout the remainder of the Cold War the Soviets unequivocally supported various Arab regimes over Israel. With Israel emerging as a close Western ally,it lead to the declaration of Zionism as an ideological enemy. 

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HOWEVER THERE ARE EVIDENCES TO SUGGEST that the source material used by 19th century Bible expositors was flawed.  It may have been an error of early historians that was adopted by all as fact that suggested Gog and Magog was referring to Russia.  I myself read so much my eyes nearly glazed over in attempting to discover who these players were in Ezekiel 38.  ;
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Could it have been IRAN- OR---GERMANY or BOTH?
 as one source suggests and I quote:
It is therefore not contradictory when some sources identify Magog with Scythia (Herodotus 1:125); which, it is said, migrated to what is now known as Germany. Linguistically, the Scythians were related to the Iranians, and hence, to the Persians and the Medes. It is therefore significant that there was a Persian tribe known as the Germanians
=====================================certainly Germany was a terrible foe to the people of Israel, the worst in history.  Could this prophecy not refer to the Holocaust itself in some way?

OR Could it have been ENGLAND and the EUROPEAN NATIONS?

as another source suggests:

The population of the land in which Russia is situated (Europe), consists of two main races, Slavs and Teutons. The latter includes the British and the Germans. This clearly shows not only that Gog is the name of the Eastern nations of Europe, but also that Magog is the name of the Western nations of that continent, i.e., the nations known as Teutons. It is also clear that in the beginning both these races lived in the same land. Gog and Magog were the titles of the ancestors of both Europe and Russia. Further evidence of this is found in the fact that from very ancient times the statues of Gog and Magog are found installed in front of the famous Guildhall of London. If these names had nothing to do with the ancestors of these people, why should their statues be installed in this manner before the chief assembly house of the nation?

The reference to these as given in the Scriptures, together with the historical evidence as furnished by these statues in London, establishes it with utmost certainty that Gog and Magog are no fictitious names but are the names of two ancient peoples which inhabit the Continent of Europe and whose influence together covers the whole of the Earth.

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 OR:  Could it be that Gog refers to the Pope?  another source:


ANCIENT NATIONS OF EZEKIEL 38/39 Ezekiel 38/39 makes reference to a group of ancient nations that are all found in Asia Minor: Magog BEING (Lydia), Meshech, Tubal, Togarmah and Gomer. The correct identification of these nations comes from the “Royal Court Records of the Assyrians”; the primary source on this subject. These same Assyrian Court records are referred to in the Bible (Ezra 4:1519).

  LYDIAN MIGRATION TO ITALY An early Lydian dynasty experienced a prolonged famine which caused half of the Lydian population to migrate to the west coast of Italy, just north of Rome. The Romans called these Lydian migrants “Etruscans.” The Etruscans settled in an area called Tuscany and they helped found the city of Rome and jump start the Roman civilization. Hundreds of years after this migration, the Lydian population in Asia Minor came to be ruled by a militant ruler whom the Greeks called “Gyges of Lydia.” To the Assyrians this same leader was known as “Gugu King of Ludu,” and “Gugu of Magugu.” Ezekiel referred to this same leader as “Gog of Magog” where “Magog” means “the land of Gog.”
So if Gog of Magog was a militant Lydian who founded Roman civilization, perhaps ezek 38 refers to Rome.....and the Roman empire is the foundation of the Papacy, so perhaps Gog is the Pope.

I ALSO FOUND Much evidence and opinion that GOG AND MAGOG are from ancient Turkey, hinting at a Turkish invasion...  That seems unlikely based on their military strength, while formidable, not matching that of Israel...but perhaps as the latest utterances from the Turkish leader Ergodan are every bit the same anti-Semitic rantings we have come to expect to hear from the leaders of Iran and Hezbollah.


After all it was The TURKISH OTTOMAN EMPIRE THAT LOST CONTROL OF THE HOLY LAND TO THE BRITISH DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR, INCLUDING JERUSALEM.  Could the prophecies be referring to that very time that we as Bible Students refer to as the beginning of the Time of Trouble?

CONCLUSIONS?

At least as of now, May 1 2018

After reading another long synopsis by another researcher on the subject I was intrigued by his methodology, as he correctly points out that most expositions of the nations of Ezek 38 have an inconsistent method of reckoning, using TWO DISPARATE METHODS OF RECKONING TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME:


most expositors use both geographic method tracing, meaning, where the people were and are,

and then also the bloodline method, tracing who the people were and where they went throughout history.

He himself uses only the geographic method to hint at Turkey being the Gog and Magog leader,

and he concludes he does so, quote:


to highlight the need for a consistent methodology among prophecy teachers ... If someone wishes to argue that we should in fact use the bloodline-lineage-migration method,.... I would also demand that it be used consistently, thus involving a majority of the nations of the earth—a position I have yet to see a single interpreter argue for. "

I AM THE VOLUNTEER - THE SINGLE INTERPRETER he has never heard of!

So after reading that, I breathed a sigh of relief knowing that I was the one:  I AM THE VOLUNTEER TO BECOME THE SINGLE INTERPRETER he had never heard of indeed suggesting that the answer is virtually all the indeed nations that make up the list of nations of the Ezekiel 38 vision.

At this point I felt he was right, but in the opposite way he would expect.  He presented a humongous list of nations that would have to be included if we used the bloodline argument to identify these nations and peoples....I mean the list contained nearly every nation that exists....

Thanks for reading what are just my own opinion 
based on my studies of the Bible, Pastor Russell, Bro. Johnson, history and current events THAT Ezekiel 38 and Zechariah 14 ARE both synonymous AND at or near their CONCLUSION.

This ends the Ezekiel 38 study for now, until the next segment, Lord willing.  I pray some are blessed by it.  Feel free to share and comment.

Yours in Truth,


Bro. Regan




P.S.  Here's the full chapter and more notes below.


Ezekiel 38 American Standard Version (ASV)

38  And the word of Jehovah came unto me, saying,
Son of man, set thy face toward Gog, of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
and say, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal:
and I will turn thee about, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed in full armor, a great company with buckler and shield, all of them handling swords;
Persia, Cush, and Put with them, all of them with shield and helmet;
Gomer, and all his hordes; the house of Togarmah in the uttermost parts of the north, and all his hordes; even many peoples with thee.
Be thou prepared, yea, prepare thyself, thou, and all thy companies that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, that is gathered out of many peoples, upon the mountains of Israel, which have been a continual waste; but it is brought forth out of the peoples, and they shall dwell securely, all of them.
And thou shalt ascend, thou shalt come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy hordes, and many peoples with thee.
10 Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: It shall come to pass in that day, that things shall come into thy mind, and thou shalt devise an evil device:
11 and thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell securely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates;
12 to take the spoil and to take the prey; to turn thy hand against the waste places that are now inhabited, and against the people that are gathered out of the nations, that have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the middle of the earth.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take the spoil? hast thou assembled thy company to take the prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take great spoil?
14 Therefore, son of man, prophesy, and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: In that day when my people Israel dwelleth securely, shalt thou not know it?
15 And thou shalt come from thy place out of the uttermost parts of the north, thou, and many peoples with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company and a mighty army;
16 and thou shalt come up against my people Israel, as a cloud to cover the land: it shall come to pass in the latter days, that I will bring thee against my land, that the nations may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
17 Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Art thou he of whom I spake in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, that prophesied in those days for many years that I would bring thee against them?
18 And it shall come to pass in that day, when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord Jehovah, that my wrath shall come up into my nostrils.
19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 so that the fishes of the sea, and the birds of the heavens, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
21 And I will call for a sword against him unto all my mountains, saith the Lord Jehovah: every man's sword shall be against his brother.
22 And with pestilence and with blood will I enter into judgment with him; and I will rain upon him, and upon his hordes, and upon the many peoples that are with him, an overflowing shower, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
23 And I will magnify myself, and sanctify myself, and I will make myself known in the eyes of many nations; and they shall know that I am Jehovah.

P.P.S.  Futher notes demonstrating the people in the land of Israel now are indeed Jews.



Isaiah 11:11-12 NIV - "In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea. He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth."

Psalm 107:2-3 NIV - "Let the redeemed of the LORD say this -- those he redeemed from the hand of the foe, those he gathered from the lands, from east and west, from north and south.

EZEKIEL 36 and 37

Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha! and, The ancient high places are ours in possession;
therefore prophesy, and say, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Because, even because they have made you desolate, and swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be a possession unto the residue of the nations, and ye are taken up in the lips of talkers, and the evil report of the people;
therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord Jehovah: Thus saith the Lord Jehovah to the mountains and to the hills, to the watercourses and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes and to the cities that are forsaken, which are become a prey and derision to the residue of the nations that are round about;
therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the nations, and against all Edom, that have appointed my land unto themselves for a possession with the joy of all their heart, with despite of soul, to cast it out for a prey.
Therefore prophesy concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains and to the hills, to the watercourses and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord Jehovah: Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my wrath, because ye have borne the shame of the nations:
therefore thus saith the Lord Jehovah: I have sworn, saying, Surely the nations that are round about you, they shall bear their shame.
But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people Israel; for they are at hand to come.
For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn into you, and ye shall be tilled and sown;
10 and I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it; and the cities shall be inhabited, and the waste places shall be builded;
11 and I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and be fruitful; and I will cause you to be inhabited after your former estate, and will do better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am Jehovah.
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and Ezekiel 37 we studied in class recently, as we learned that the valley of the dry bones was the Jewish national hopes, and that when the dry bones received flesh and muscles and skin it signified symbolically the ressurrection of the nation of Israel,  of jewish national hopes


JEREMIAH 31:
Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the uttermost parts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall they return hither.
10 Hear the word of Jehovah, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off; and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as shepherd doth his flock.
11 For Jehovah hath ransomed Jacob, and redeemed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he.


Jeremiah 32:37 Behold, I will gather them out of all the countries, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my wrath, and in great indignation; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely:
38 and they shall be my people, and I will be their God:


44 Men shall buy fields for money, and subscribe the deeds, and seal them, and call witnesses, in the land of Benjamin, and in the places about Jerusalem, and in the cities of Judah, and in the cities of the hill-country, and in the cities of the lowland, and in the cities of the South: for I will cause their captivity to return, saith Jehovah.

FRIENDS, this we have seen in our lifetime.  Israel was saved out of the ravages of WWII and regathered to a once desolate land nearly bereft on inhabitants to re-establish her ancient dwelling places, and there they are today...........even right now, never before in the history of the world has anything like this occurred....and  their existence as a nation today is proof that The Word of God is True.



 P.P.P.S.  Re: Psalm 83

NOW, what does the Bible say about what we are yet to expect to see happen after this, and yet subsequent to the establishment of messiah's kingdom on earth?

(Psalm 83:1-5)

83 O God, keep not thou silence: Hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult; And they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
Thy take crafty counsel against thy people, And consult together against thy hidden ones.
They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; That the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
For they have consulted together with one consent; Against thee do they make a covenant:

 Recall the PLO have a charter or covenant as they call it , calling for the destruction of the nation of Israel.  Most of the world agrees.  The Lord God of Israel has other plans!

God bless the Jews! Isa 40:1